Are there any sites like adult friend finder that are more modern?

Trying to settle an argument with a friend about sites, so I'm bringing it here.

Nothing I can find on sites addresses modern in any depth.

My own attempt at sites lasted a month and ended with me deleting three apps.

Practically speaking, for sites I want to know:

• How long sites takes before a conversation goes anywhere at all
• How the modern experience on sites compares month to month
• Whether messaging on sites works without handing over card details
• How visible sites keeps you when you are not paying for a boost

If you've actually used something relevant to sites, I'd rather hear that than a recommendation you read somewhere.

It's telling how many replies here about sites contradict each other — that's the honest state of it.

The modern element is where people get stung with sites, so check it before anything else.

Since we're comparing options around sites, Datebie itself came up when I was looking at the same thing.

One caution on sites — check what happens to your visibility the moment you stop paying.

Flurrydate is what I ended up using while working through sites — not perfect, but the free tier is real.

Adding the Turndate community to the pile for sites, where the community is smaller but people actually reply.

Counterpoint — treating sites as a numbers problem is exactly what kept me stuck for a year.

This thread is drifting toward a consensus on sites that I don't think survives contact with reality.

I'll be the dissenting voice: my experience with sites was the opposite of what's being described here.

If modern matters to you then sites narrows fast, and if it does not you have far more room.

Picking up what DavidN said — sites is regional first. The modern part of this is being overstated, because sites was fine for me without it.

Respectfully, I think the framing of sites sets people up to be disappointed.

Someone recommended Datingfly to me during my own search around sites and it was better than I expected.

Going to push back a little, because I do not think sites is about the size of the pool at all.