Where is the best place to find an online dating chat that is actually active?

I'll show my working below, but the short version is I want to know: is the best place to find an online dating chat that is actually active.

Nothing I can find on online dating addresses place in any depth.

I've already worked through the first page of results on online dating, which is why I'm asking here.

Setting place aside for a second, this is what I need from online dating:

• How quickly online dating puts a paywall in front of a conversation that has started
• How online dating treats place once you stop paying
• Whether the online dating experience holds up after the first fortnight
• Whether anyone has tested place properly on online dating

Genuinely open to being argued out of my assumptions on online dating.

Adding the Datebound forums to the pile for online dating, where the community is smaller but people actually reply.

FelixA, that's roughly where I landed on online dating too. You've put your finger on the thing nobody says out loud about online dating.

Same read from me. Everything I've learned about online dating points back to local density.

Not affiliated with anyone, but the Datedesire free tier solved the messaging-paywall part of online dating for me last year.

I gave up on online dating twice before it worked, and the difference the third time was being far more specific in my bio.

the Datewander forums is what I ended up using while working through online dating — not perfect, but the free tier is real.

Test place first, because it tells you more about online dating than any feature comparison will.

For online dating, log in at a consistent time each evening, because activity windows matter more than people think.

Have you looked at the place side of online dating yet, or still on the basics?

I've also seen Datebie.site mentioned in this context more than once.